ireadthenews2dayohboy

In response to:Oh What Joy To Be Back in the UK

Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:51:15 +0200

The Brits are a very stoic race, it must be something in the water because those immigrants that have made the effort to integrate now display the same stoicism.
However, and it is a really big however, when their patience finally runs out, the vengeance that they wreak is terrible.
Look at the punishment handed out to the final Conservative regime, they were close to extinction.
In recent months, finally the Brits have realised that they have been made fools of and now someone is going to have to pay the price.

The Brown regime are now the walking dead, they will not be forgiven no matter what bribes they roll out between now and the next election. They borrowed 2.7 billion to bribe the electorate in the Nantwich bye election and were all but wiped out. Lost their deposit at Henley. I believe they will lose Glasgow. Its over.

As a small aside, if the 2.7 billion had been used to buy up some of the over supply of newly developed houses, it could have purchased 27,000 homes for the needy, bailed out the builders and put something back in to the banking industry, plus generating £2,000,000 a week in rent, to be ploughed back in to more social housing

The problem now is how do we put this distorted and fractured society back together.

By distortion I refer to the fact that a large part of society now believes that it has no personal responsibility for anything, don't believe they should work or make any contribution - just take.

This distorted reality has produced the fractured society where new generations are living feral lives and do not believe that society rules apply to them.

Putting society back together sadly requires things to get a bit worse than they are, because before society will tolerate the unpleasant medicine handed out by a leader like Thatcher they have to plumb the depths of a society run by the likes of Scargill, but we are nearly there.

Sadly all of the pieces needed to create a worse situation are in place. All across the UK employers are hanging on to their workforce in the hope that the current downturn is just a blip,it isn't, and its the holiday season, when we get to September and the order books are still heading South then that is when the mass P45 will be handed out.

Reading this weekends papers there was a two page feature in which some idiot reporter was recycling a Government press release, claiming that the UK's savings rate had dropped because the Brits are wary of the security of the banks, NO, they are not saving because they have nothing left to save, Brown has now taken the lot.

We have all finally been bled dry

In response to:Oh What Joy To Be Back in the UK

Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:04:04 +0200

Why do we Brits not rise up and raise hell? because we're too polite of course! we are a nation of queuers are we not (and no I didn't spell that wrong)

In response to:Is it safe to come out again?

Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:59:30 +0200

Sounds like a plan! I like the bit about paying politicians an average wage. it is a fact that everything is going up in price, fuel and food are the two things that I have been most aware of.

In response to:Is it safe to come out again?

Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:08:25 +0200

My personal strategy is to go in to survival mode, to cut down my discretionary spending, because I can.
Of course, for a huge number of the population that is not an option. If your weekly expenditure equals your weekly income and an uncaring Government creates the situation where you must pay more for the same, then that way is pain.
The true pain is only just appearing over the horizon and will get worse and worse as the year unfolds.
It will bring in to even sharper focus the fact that the UK is now three societies.

The very rich, who have no need to care and because they can arrange their affairs that way pay little or no tax on their income.

At the other end of the scale we have the 6,000,000 plus that society has chosen to pay for sitting on their arses, they pay nothing and just take. Yes, for some of them, a small minority, their dependence is justified.

In the middle are the working men & women who pay for it all and get next to nothing in return.
It is this middle group that are finally about to buckle under the strain.
I have always believed that if you support a system that is wrong you perpetuate it, if however you refuse to go along with it it collapses and there is then an opportunity to build something better as a replacement.

My focus is now on putting my views to as many people as I can find who will listen, in the hope that when we next get an election enough people will participate to force a change.

I have a very simple view of politicians.

Their salary should be set by statute at a rate that is the average of the working population.

Their pensions should, again by inviolate statute, be an average of the pension paid to normal working men & women

If it is required that they have accomodation in London, then it should be provided by the state buying a 600 bedroom hotel with the members having first priority and surplus rooms let out commercially. This has the bonus of forcing them to actually mix with the electorate.

If enough people make their voices heard, it can be changed.

In response to:Is it safe to come out again?

Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:44:06 +0200

Quite agree. What are you going to do about it?

In response to:Why is it assumed we care

Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:43:57 +0200

Thanks for the input folks.

Its very tempting to cut yourself off fom society, I have gone someway already in that I live at the end of a quarter mile drive, a mile or so from the nearest village.
However I keep coming back to something my grandfather said, I think quoting Burke from the 1700's
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
I would like to think that I am a believer in good and must therefore try not to let some of the insanity of modern society pass without at the very least making comment.
Munzly - don't be too concerned at your lack of knowledge on Amy Winehouse, you haven't missed much, just another pathetic drug addict determined to kill herself as a spectacle for the media to watch and feed on.
Hopefully Darwins law of evolution will eventually kick in and all the wasters will die out because there genes do not get to replicate themselves. So next time you trip over an addict unconcious in the gutter and covered in their own vomit or are run off the road by a youth in a car with an exhaust the size of the mersey tunnel and speakers of a similar size - just smile because they will die soon and before they can breed

In response to:Why is it assumed we care

Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:10:26 +0200

Very well put...since I agree with your points I would say that wouldn't I? :-)
Sadly, there is obviously a market for these sensorious tales although they do not find a consumer in me.
Interesting thought about Harry's DNA testing.

In response to:Why is it assumed we care

Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:33:19 +0200

I realise that my suggestion is going to completely negate the purpose of your blog, but why not do what I did 15 years ago, which is chuck out the TV, stop buying newspapers, magazines etc. and only read news items online that you really want to know about. - It's great, for instance I have absolutely no idea who Amy Whitehouse is :)

Munzly the Hermit

In response to:Gang, Knife & Gun Culture

Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:26:33 +0200

Just as long as the wonderful little angels don't endanger the lives of the real brave guys already there, I would agree with you. We could use them as forward recce troops or as spearhead troops so that they could go forward first and identify where the enemy were located.

That would diss them up to the eyeballs.

They would really feel at home you know because they could then legitimately where camouflage clothing and the jackets come with a hood attached.
The more I think about it the more I like the idea.

Irish

In response to:Browns gone and the Weathers Improved

Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:12:47 +0200

Ah that would be it, we call it "The Special Relationship" they call it " American Eyes Only"
I never did see the point of all that expenditure when , even if a PM had the balls to press the button which I doubt, they actually pressed it they would find that they had to ask an American " advisor " for the launch codes.

the more things change the more they remain the same

In response to:Browns gone and the Weathers Improved

Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:56:37 +0200

They have to explain to him that all the nuclear weaposn we bought from them will only work when they want them to... this is called the Special Relationship.

In response to:Here's One He Made Previously

Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:33:27 +0200

Hi Walrus

I am rather jaundiced with regards to Party politics. My father was on the left wing of the Communist Party so i guess it was inevitable that my youthful rejection of paternal values would lead me to support Thatcher & crew. Its sad she eventually went completely gaga, but Capitalism red in tooth and claw is just too blunt a weapon to deal with a modern economy and society.
My father was a Shop Steward at the car plants in Oxford so we had some shall we say full and frank debates but the point that I used to make to him was, its probable that his members were the best putter onner (is that a word) of wheels in the World but they were putting them on a car that nobody wanted, clearly that had to change but the social pain of making thousands unemployed was too brutal a change because it denied people the respect and dignity they deserved.
He is now dead, if he wasn't he would be raging against the travesty that is the modern Labour party cos Socialist it certainly ain't.
I think I am now effectively disenfranchised, if the local Conservative group put a tin of beans up as its candidate it would be elected, so now I spend half the year the other side of the planet and view British politics from afar.

In response to:Here's One He Made Previously

Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:16:45 +0200

No, I don't think he was a good chancellor. He is just a member of a gang that infiltrated the Labour Party, removed all traces of looking after the people from their policies, removed the democratic choice of party policy, and settled down to fill their boots.

Epilogue.

The Walrus left when he saw what was happening, and now supports the Lib Dems.

In response to:Here's One He Made Previously

Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:16:11 +0200

well you know what they said about the 1960's

" if you can remember it you weren't there"
praps its the same in the noughties

In response to:European Constitution

Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:12:11 +0200

Hi Gordon
No, not having a go at Gordons, although I am a bit off Julians today.
I am certainly wishing to hold politicians, of all persuasions,too account because they so richly deserve it and we do all pay their wages.

The arithmatic error was mine because the original note was far too long and compared Welsh, Scottish, English and Northen Ireland representation. I was less than precise when editing. However my main point remains the same, there are just too many layers, I wouldn't be quite so offended if I felt that I was getting value for my money. Things like World class schools, decent roads, a police force that didn't hide in its offices, a library service, not too much to ask for is it? I have just calculated that my combined Council Tax is over £4,000 a year for which I get my dustbins emptied, I make no other call on my local Government. The real irony is that my dustbin contents are taken to a landfil exactly 5 miles away.Now of course they only collect every 2 weeks so thats £160.00 per bin empty.

I guess you are in Scotland ? You must find it seriously irritating listening to politicians whose view seems to be that life ends at the edge of Parliament Square in London and anyone outside of that is some sort of Neanderthal who only needs talking at when there is an election in the offing.

In response to:Here's One He Made Previously

Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:57:10 +0200

I don't recall spring 2000. I had a sick-note from my GP though.

In response to:European Constitution

Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:34:16 +0200

Well we don't have a Parish Council, and it's either district or regional here, not both, and I'm not sure which one it is, Oh there is definitely no County Council, so that takes it down to, let's see, I'll get my abbacuss out ( it's an old cd where that Swedish pop group Abba, do the swearing tracks) so that's 4, levels of govt. if my arithmetic is any good ( which it isn't, but surely 7-3=4) One last thing don't have a go at the Gordons of this world, we are a dangerous species, and no I never got that last bit wrong. Cheers